From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Tue Jan  1 15:47:09 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:47:09 +1100
Subject: SFPE> Re: Total flood fire protection using low pressure	Nitrogen -
 seeking engineering solutions
References: <OFBD9D59FA.70A79402-ON862573BF.006BA789-832573BF.006BC341@swissre.com>
	<47766D35.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au> <47791C8A.6080607@erols.com>
Message-ID: <477A607D.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> "Orville M. Slye" <lcainc at erols.com> 01/01/08 3:44 am >>>
Without some major controls on access to an area protected by nitrogen 
total flooding,  this request for services indicates a potential 
disaster for personnel entering these areas.  The fire protection  
engineering profession has focused on providing reasonable and cost 
effective solutions for fire control and extinguishment while 
simultaneously providing life safety for occupants exposed to a fire.  
This is the primary reason that carbon dioxide systems are used in 
limited applications in preference to extinguishing agents that are less 
life threatening.  While simple chemistry shows that nitrogen will 
extinguish a fire - it is also hazardous to life and where ever possible 
to do so, the use of more traditional extinguishing media should be 
examined first.  Yes it may cost more but it surely will be less 
hazardous to personnel. 

Orville "Bud" Slye, PE, FSFPE
Loss Control Associates, Inc.
Langhorne, PA 19047
<lcainc at erols.com>

Bogdan Dlugogorski wrote:

>Subject Total flood fire protection using low pressure Nitrogen - seeking engineering solutions                                             
>                                                                           
>Dear Fire Protection practicioners,
>
>I wonder if any of you could provide assistance on this subject. We need to
>identify a reputable fire protection contractor that is capable of
>delivering the detail engineering design for the problem stated below. Any
>indication will be greatly appreciated. This facility is located in Brazil,
>South America, and is an important steel maker of European ownership.
>
>As some of you may be aware, one of the by products of the steel making
>industry is Gaseous Nitrogen. One of our customers in this segment is
>evaluating the use of Nitrogen from its air separation unit for the fire
>protection of a large electrical room.
>
>The space to be flooded is huge (> 2000 cubic meters).  This site has
>Nitrogen reservoir of ~ 11 metric ton of Nitrogen. There are two pressure
>levels available at the gas line: 14.5 bar and 24.5 bar. The available flow
>rate of Nitrogen is 1500 kg/minute. I have estimated that the mass demand
>of Nitrogen is roughly 615 kg/min for the entire room and 105 kg/minute for
>the raised floor space.
>
>The system components will be as indicated below:
>
>Supply manifold * connection to existing Nitrogen supply pipelines. This
>would be a standard manifold provided with control valve, if so required a
>pressure reducing valve, and manual isolation valves for maintenance. The
>control valve could be an on-off type valve. Upon an emergency condition
>the valve would be set to its 100% open position. The valve would be held
>open during the amount of time necessary to inject the required volume of
>Nitrogen. The designer should check whether a standard control valve for
>low pressure CO2 systems would be useful in this situation.
>
>Pipe network * pipe usually installed within the protected space to
>distribute Nitrogen from the main feed manifold to the gas injection
>nozzles. For example, if the facility decided to protect the raised floor
>space only, then this pipe would be typically installed within the raised
>floor space. There are engineering considerations such as space
>limitations, required points of support for piping, etc, but in principle
>this would not be a major issue. If the facility decided to protect the
>main room then piping would be typically installed above the false ceiling
>space, with injection nozzles installed below the false ceiling tiles.
>Obviously, if the facility decided to protect these two spaces
>concomitantly, piping would be installed at these two spaces. In
>conventional systems, supplied with high pressure cylinders, pipe sizes are
>rarely above 3-inch size.
>
>Injection nozzles: devices that will deliver Nitrogen into the protected
>space (raised floor, main room, cabinets, etc). These devices should be
>installed within the protected space. There are specific engineering
>installation guidelines for these devices (space relative to walls,
>distance relative to false ceiling, etc). These engineering parameters
>should be provided by the system*s designer. The amount of Nitrogen that
>will be delivered by each nozzle is a direct function of the square root of
>the gas pressure at the nozzle orifice. The gas pressure at the nozzle
>orifice will be determined by the pressure losses from the manifold to the
>nozzles. Gas pressure losses will be ultimately determined by the pipe
>layout including configuration, size, fittings as well as flow rate through
>each pipe section.  The number of injection nozzles should be established
>by the system*s designer. The number of nozzles should be enough so that
>Nitrogen is uniformly distributed throughout the entire volume space. Once
>the number of nozzles is established the required flow of nitrogen at each
>nozzle will be determined by dividing the total required flow of Nitrogen
>per the total number of nozzles. Next, the minimum required N2 pressure at
>each nozzle will be determined. Next mass and energy balances will have to
>be performed to determine what is the minimum pressure at the manifold so
>that all nozzles deliver the required flow rate of Nitrogen simultaneously.
>
>There is a lapse of time between the opening of the control valve and
>actual discharge of Nitrogen out of nozzles. This period should be modeled
>in calculations by the system designer.
>
>Thanks a lot for your attention
>
>Regards
>
>Andres
>
>Andres Cespedes | Senior Loss Prevention Consultant
>Global Asset Protection Services LLC | Pra?a Alfredo Egydio de Souza Aranha
>100, 04344 902 S?o Paulo, Brazil
>Direct: 55-11-3371 6584 E-mail: andres_cespedes at swissre.com 
>http://www.swissre.com 
>
>


From aydin.ozkaya at karina.gen.tr  Wed Jan  2 03:53:06 2008
From: aydin.ozkaya at karina.gen.tr (=?iso-8859-9?Q?Ayd=FDn_=D6ZKAYA?=)
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 18:53:06 +0200
Subject: SFPE> Nitrogen Blanketing Standards
In-Reply-To: <477A607D.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>
Message-ID: <20080101165025.A8F38482C9@smtp.ekonbilisim.net>

Hello everyone...

First of all, I wish you all, a happy new...

I would like to ask the design and application standards for "nitrogen
blanketing" in flammable liquid storage tanks, as a means of Fire
Prevention, by reducing the O2 concentration in the tank top.

Are there any NFPA or FM or any other respected industry standards, which  I
can access for such a system design or application?

Kind rgds.
 
Ayd?n ?ZKAYA
KAR?NA Design, Consultancy and Training Services Ltd.Co.
www.karina.gen.tr
 


 




From Jack.Kilavuz at sg.royalsun.com  Wed Jan  2 14:22:01 2008
From: Jack.Kilavuz at sg.royalsun.com (Jack Kilavuz)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:22:01 +0800
Subject: SFPE> Nitrogen Blanketing Standards
In-Reply-To: <20080101165025.A8F38482C9@smtp.ekonbilisim.net>
Message-ID: <OF7F208AB1.01DD8522-ON482573C4.000CAE96-482573C4.001289BE@notes.royalsun.com>



Dear Forumites

Happy New Year, wishing you all a happier, healthier and hopefully
wealthier one!

Dear Aydin,

The intention is to maintain oxygen concentration below a level that does
not sustain combustion as we know it, usually target is 12% to 14% .
It is simply inert gas flooding in a way, and very common in petrochem,
pharmaceuticals, steel, food (not for fire) and even in woodworking
industries.

First there is a Chemical Engineering Forum on the net,
http://www.cheresources.com/invision/lofiversion/index.php/. Here if you
look into "tank blanketing and venting"  you will find a lot of discussion
on the subject.
 http://www.cheresources.com/blanketzz.shtml for example recommends 0.5 bar
differential in design.

For design code in NFPA, IMHO, you need to refer to 2001, Clean Agents, as
nitrogen is IG-100.

Have a good one,

Jack C Kilavuz
Managing Consultant
Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance - Singapore
77 Robinson Rd #17-00, Singapore 068896
DID:   (+65) 6423 0552
Fax:    (+65) 6423 0798
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Prevention, by reducing the O2 concentration in the tank top.

Are there any NFPA or FM or any other respected industry standards, which
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can access for such a system design or application?

Kind rgds.

Ayd?n ?ZKAYA
KAR?NA Design, Consultancy and Training Services Ltd.Co.
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Wed Jan  2 21:37:49 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:37:49 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Re: Nitrogen Blanketing Standards
Message-ID: <477C042D.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> "Plummer, Steven" <Steven.Plummer at affiliatedfm.com> 2/01/2008 8:46 pm >>>
The following FM Global Property Loss Prevention Data Sheets address inerting of flammable liquid tanks:

FM Global Data Sheet 7-88 FLAMMABLE LIQUID STORAGE TANKS
FM Global Data Sheet 7-59 INERTING AND PURGING OF TANKS, PROCESS VESSELS, AND EQUIPMENT

See http://www.fmglobalcatalog.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=INDDS 

<Steven.Plummer at affiliatedfm.com>

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From: iafss-bounces at newcastle.edu.au [mailto:iafss-bounces at newcastle.edu.au] On Behalf Of Bogdan Dlugogorski
Sent: 02 January 2008 00:06
To: iafss at newcastle.edu.au 
Subject: IAFSS> Nitrogen Blanketing Standards

>>> Ayd*n ?ZKAYA <aydin.ozkaya at karina.gen.tr> 2/01/2008 3:53 am >>>
Hello everyone...

First of all, I wish you all, a happy new...

I would like to ask the design and application standards for "nitrogen
blanketing" in flammable liquid storage tanks, as a means of Fire
Prevention, by reducing the O2 concentration in the tank top.

Are there any NFPA or FM or any other respected industry standards, which  I
can access for such a system design or application?

Kind rgds.
 
Ayd*n ?ZKAYA
KAR*NA Design, Consultancy and Training Services Ltd.Co.
www.karina.gen.tr 
<aydin.ozkaya at karina.gen.tr> 
 
 
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Thu Jan  3 05:54:38 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:54:38 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Question to Forum
Message-ID: <477C789E.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> Richard Forrest <R.Forrest at lwf.co.uk> 3/01/2008 4:32 am >>>
Dear All

An organisation having a substantial premises portfolio in London, UK
has requested opinion into the potential for the use of passenger
lifts
in evacuating Mobility Impaired Persons in the event of a fire. The
buildings are largely office accommodation ranging from low to high
rise
blocks.

Does anyone have any information or reference to research on fire risk
criteria where such a policy has been considered or adopted?


Richard Forrest 

Director

Lawrence Webster Forrest Ltd
R.Forrest at lwf.co.uk ( 020 8668 8663 2 020 8668 8583


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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Sat Jan  5 08:15:48 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:15:48 +1100
Subject: SFPE>   Re: Question to Forum
References: <477C789E.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>
	<BAY121-W11A016AE71E7586F63F6D1CC4C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <477F3CB4.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> thansingh sharma <tssharma at hotmail.com> 4/01/2008 1:04 pm >>>

Dear Mr. Richard Forrest
 
A Ph.D. research project was undertaken by me at Queensland University of Technology, Brisbane, Australia. The research project examined the feasibility of using lifts along with design modifications as an alternative facility for a safer and more efficient emergency evacuation. The scope was limited to apartment buildings. The project analysed the important issues in relation to the use of lifts for emergency evacuation such as human behavioural response, fire hazard exposure and reliability of lift operational mechanism. 
 
The research concluded that there are two options if lifts are considered for emergency evacuation. Lifts with protected lobby can be used in the evacuation of one-fourth of the building population (who may be aged and disabled) without reducing the level of fire safety. For considering the evacuation of the entire population, lift system needs special design considerations such as double door protection (or lifts protected with double lobby). 
 
The use of lifts with unprotected lobby produces the maximum risks and is absolutely unsafe (in comparison to stairs as an acceptable level of risk).  
 
The research project will be submitted to the Australian Building Codes Board (ABCB) for wider circulation and hopefully for implementation in apartment buildings.  The research can also be extended for office buildings in future.  
 
Best Regards
Than Singh Sharma
Divisional Fire Officer
Delhi Fire Service 
New Delhi INDIA
(M) 0091-99990-44855
tssharma at hotmail.com 
 
   *It can be envisaged that the use of lifts will be inevitable for super high-rise structures* 
 
                                                      **************> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 05:54:38 +1100> From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au> Subject: SFPE> Question to Forum> To: sfpe at newcastle.edu.au> > >>> Richard Forrest <R.Forrest at lwf.co.uk> 3/01/2008 4:32 am >>>> Dear All> > An organisation having a substantial premises portfolio in London, UK> has requested opinion into the potential for the use of passenger> lifts> in evacuating Mobility Impaired Persons in the event of a fire. The> buildings are largely office accommodation ranging from low to high> rise> blocks.> > Does anyone have any information or reference to research on fire risk> criteria where such a policy has been considered or adopted?> > > Richard Forrest > > Director> > Lawrence Webster Forrest Ltd> R.Forrest at lwf.co.uk ( 020 8668 8663 2 020 8668 8583> > 
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Sat Jan  5 08:22:25 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:22:25 +1100
Subject: SFPE> Re: Total flood fire protection using low pressure	Nitrogen -
 seeking engineering solutions
Message-ID: <477F3E41.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> Jim Davidson <jimd at firedesign.com.au> 4/01/2008 1:52 pm >>>
Dear List Readers,

The use of nitrogen as a total flooding agent is accepted within the fire protection industry and the product is included in NFPA 2001, Clean agent systems, and ISO Standard 14520-13. It is listed as an acceptable agent under the US EPA SNAP programme. Personnel safety is determined by an appropriate design that ensures an acceptable residual oxygen level. This subject is well explained and explored in the design codes.

You may find that the storage, equipment and design is outside the codes noted above unless you use an approved i.e. listed, system from a reputable manufacturer. However, the use of nitrogen is acceptable. 

I have not reviewed the details of the information below due to time constraints but trust the above is of some assistance.

Yours truly,

Jim Davidson
Fire Design & Commissioning
P: 61 8 9368 0333
F: 61 8 9368 0433
M: 61 (0) 414 589 139
<jimd at firedesign.com.au>

-----Original Message-----
From: iafss-bounces at newcastle.edu.au [mailto:iafss-bounces at newcastle.edu.au] On Behalf Of Bogdan Dlugogorski
Sent: Tuesday, 1 January 2008 1:48 PM
To: iafss at newcastle.edu.au 
Subject: IAFSS> Re: Total flood fire protection using low pressure Nitrogen - seeking engineering solutions

>>> "Orville M. Slye" <lcainc at erols.com> 01/01/08 3:44 am >>>
Without some major controls on access to an area protected by nitrogen total flooding,  this request for services indicates a potential disaster for personnel entering these areas.  The fire protection engineering profession has focused on providing reasonable and cost effective solutions for fire control and extinguishment while simultaneously providing life safety for occupants exposed to a fire.  
This is the primary reason that carbon dioxide systems are used in limited applications in preference to extinguishing agents that are less life threatening.  While simple chemistry shows that nitrogen will extinguish a fire - it is also hazardous to life and where ever possible to do so, the use of more traditional extinguishing media should be examined first.  Yes it may cost more but it surely will be less hazardous to personnel. 

Orville "Bud" Slye, PE, FSFPE
Loss Control Associates, Inc.
Langhorne, PA 19047
<lcainc at erols.com>

Bogdan Dlugogorski wrote:

>Subject Total flood fire protection using low pressure Nitrogen - seeking engineering solutions                                             
>                                                                           
>Dear Fire Protection practicioners,
>
>I wonder if any of you could provide assistance on this subject. We 
>need to identify a reputable fire protection contractor that is capable 
>of delivering the detail engineering design for the problem stated 
>below. Any indication will be greatly appreciated. This facility is 
>located in Brazil, South America, and is an important steel maker of European ownership.
>
>As some of you may be aware, one of the by products of the steel making 
>industry is Gaseous Nitrogen. One of our customers in this segment is 
>evaluating the use of Nitrogen from its air separation unit for the 
>fire protection of a large electrical room.
>
>The space to be flooded is huge (> 2000 cubic meters).  This site has 
>Nitrogen reservoir of ~ 11 metric ton of Nitrogen. There are two 
>pressure levels available at the gas line: 14.5 bar and 24.5 bar. The 
>available flow rate of Nitrogen is 1500 kg/minute. I have estimated 
>that the mass demand of Nitrogen is roughly 615 kg/min for the entire 
>room and 105 kg/minute for the raised floor space.
>
>The system components will be as indicated below:
>
>Supply manifold * connection to existing Nitrogen supply pipelines. 
>This would be a standard manifold provided with control valve, if so 
>required a pressure reducing valve, and manual isolation valves for 
>maintenance. The control valve could be an on-off type valve. Upon an 
>emergency condition the valve would be set to its 100% open position. 
>The valve would be held open during the amount of time necessary to 
>inject the required volume of Nitrogen. The designer should check 
>whether a standard control valve for low pressure CO2 systems would be useful in this situation.
>
>Pipe network * pipe usually installed within the protected space to 
>distribute Nitrogen from the main feed manifold to the gas injection 
>nozzles. For example, if the facility decided to protect the raised 
>floor space only, then this pipe would be typically installed within 
>the raised floor space. There are engineering considerations such as 
>space limitations, required points of support for piping, etc, but in 
>principle this would not be a major issue. If the facility decided to 
>protect the main room then piping would be typically installed above 
>the false ceiling space, with injection nozzles installed below the false ceiling tiles.
>Obviously, if the facility decided to protect these two spaces 
>concomitantly, piping would be installed at these two spaces. In 
>conventional systems, supplied with high pressure cylinders, pipe sizes 
>are rarely above 3-inch size.
>
>Injection nozzles: devices that will deliver Nitrogen into the 
>protected space (raised floor, main room, cabinets, etc). These devices 
>should be installed within the protected space. There are specific 
>engineering installation guidelines for these devices (space relative 
>to walls, distance relative to false ceiling, etc). These engineering 
>parameters should be provided by the system*s designer. The amount of 
>Nitrogen that will be delivered by each nozzle is a direct function of 
>the square root of the gas pressure at the nozzle orifice. The gas 
>pressure at the nozzle orifice will be determined by the pressure 
>losses from the manifold to the nozzles. Gas pressure losses will be 
>ultimately determined by the pipe layout including configuration, size, 
>fittings as well as flow rate through each pipe section.  The number of 
>injection nozzles should be established by the system*s designer. The 
>number of nozzles should be enough so that Nitrogen is uniformly 
>distributed throughout the entire volume space. Once the number of 
>nozzles is established the required flow of nitrogen at each nozzle 
>will be determined by dividing the total required flow of Nitrogen per 
>the total number of nozzles. Next, the minimum required N2 pressure at 
>each nozzle will be determined. Next mass and energy balances will have 
>to be performed to determine what is the minimum pressure at the manifold so that all nozzles deliver the required flow rate of Nitrogen simultaneously.
>
>There is a lapse of time between the opening of the control valve and 
>actual discharge of Nitrogen out of nozzles. This period should be 
>modeled in calculations by the system designer.
>
>Thanks a lot for your attention
>
>Regards
>
>Andres
>
>Andres Cespedes | Senior Loss Prevention Consultant Global Asset 
>Protection Services LLC | Pra?a Alfredo Egydio de Souza Aranha 100, 
>04344 902 S?o Paulo, Brazil
>Direct: 55-11-3371 6584 E-mail: andres_cespedes at swissre.com 
>http://www.swissre.com 



From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Sat Jan  5 08:44:44 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:44:44 +1100
Subject: SFPE>   Re: Question to Forum
References: <477C789E.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20080102111855.03622008@mail.llnl.gov>
Message-ID: <477F437C.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> "Robert "Bing" deLeyos" <deLeyos2 at llnl.gov> 3/01/2008 6:21 am >>>
The following article, from Richard Bukowski at NIST, provides a good 
overall discussion on the potential use of elevators for egress, but 
probably of more importance to you are the article's references:

http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire07/PDF/f07054.pdf 

Robert "Bing" deLeyos, PE
Fire Protection Engineer
Hazards Control Team 2
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

Phone: (925) 423-6314
Pager: 03158 
<deLeyos2 at llnl.gov>

At 10:54 AM 1/2/2008, you wrote:
> >>> Richard Forrest <R.Forrest at lwf.co.uk> 3/01/2008 4:32 am >>>
>Dear All
>
>An organisation having a substantial premises portfolio in London, UK
>has requested opinion into the potential for the use of passenger
>lifts
>in evacuating Mobility Impaired Persons in the event of a fire. The
>buildings are largely office accommodation ranging from low to high
>rise
>blocks.
>
>Does anyone have any information or reference to research on fire
risk
>criteria where such a policy has been considered or adopted?
>
>
>Richard Forrest
>
>Director
>
>Lawrence Webster Forrest Ltd
>R.Forrest at lwf.co.uk ( 020 8668 8663 2 020 8668 8583
>


From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Sat Jan  5 08:46:29 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:46:29 +1100
Subject: SFPE>   Re: Question to Forum
References: <477C789E.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>
	<BAY103-W9774EC261815230DE2666BC520@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <477F43E5.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> Shawn Bliss <smbliss at msn.com> 3/01/2008 6:34 am >>>


In the IBC buildings 4 or more stories in height that are required to
be accessible, elevators on emergency power are required to be an egress
route for accessibility purposes.
See section 1007 in the following link:
 
http://www2.iccsafe.org/states/Seattle/seattle_building/building_frameset.htm

 
 
Regards,
 
Shawn Bliss MSc
<smbliss at msn.com>  
 
 > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 05:54:38 +1100> From:
bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au> Subject: SFPE> Question to
Forum> To: sfpe at newcastle.edu.au> > >>> Richard Forrest
<R.Forrest at lwf.co.uk> 3/01/2008 4:32 am >>>> Dear All> > An
organisation having a substantial premises portfolio in London, UK> has
requested opinion into the potential for the use of passenger> lifts> in
evacuating Mobility Impaired Persons in the event of a fire. The>
buildings are largely office accommodation ranging from low to high>
rise> blocks.> > Does anyone have any information or reference to
research on fire risk> criteria where such a policy has been considered
or adopted?> > > Richard Forrest > > Director> > Lawrence Webster
Forrest Ltd> R.Forrest at lwf.co.uk ( 020 8668 8663 2 020 8668 8583> > 

From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Sat Jan  5 08:49:15 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:49:15 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Re: Nitrogen Blanketing Standards
References: <20080101165025.A8F38482C9@smtp.ekonbilisim.net>
	<OF7F208AB1.01DD8522-ON482573C4.000CAE96-482573C4.001289BE@notes.royalsun.com>
Message-ID: <477F448B.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> Jack Kilavuz <Jack.Kilavuz at sg.royalsun.com> 2/01/2008 2:22 pm >>>


Dear Forumites

Happy New Year, wishing you all a happier, healthier and hopefully
wealthier one!

Dear Aydin,

The intention is to maintain oxygen concentration below a level that does
not sustain combustion as we know it, usually target is 12% to 14% .
It is simply inert gas flooding in a way, and very common in petrochem,
pharmaceuticals, steel, food (not for fire) and even in woodworking
industries.

First there is a Chemical Engineering Forum on the net,
http://www.cheresources.com/invision/lofiversion/index.php/. Here if you
look into "tank blanketing and venting"  you will find a lot of discussion
on the subject.
 http://www.cheresources.com/blanketzz.shtml for example recommends 0.5 bar
differential in design.

For design code in NFPA, IMHO, you need to refer to 2001, Clean Agents, as
nitrogen is IG-100.

Have a good one,

Jack C Kilavuz
Managing Consultant
Royal & Sun Alliance Insurance - Singapore
77 Robinson Rd #17-00, Singapore 068896
DID:   (+65) 6423 0552
Fax:    (+65) 6423 0798
Mobile   (+65) 9277 5741
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Hello everyone...

First of all, I wish you all, a happy new...

I would like to ask the design and application standards for "nitrogen
blanketing" in flammable liquid storage tanks, as a means of Fire
Prevention, by reducing the O2 concentration in the tank top.

Are there any NFPA or FM or any other respected industry standards, which
I
can access for such a system design or application?

Kind rgds.

Ayd*n ?ZKAYA
KAR*NA Design, Consultancy and Training Services Ltd.Co.
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Sun Jan  6 05:32:15 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:32:15 +1100
Subject: SFPE> Senior Fire Engineer Opportunity (Vacancy no. E4883)	Date of
 posting Jan 08
Message-ID: <478067DF.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>



>>> MingChun Luo <MingChun.Luo at arup.com> 5/01/2008 11:35 pm >>>
Dear colleagues,

 

Senior Fire Engineer Opportunity

 

Arup is a global firm of designers, engineers, planners and business
consultants with a total staff of 9,000 working in 86 offices in 37
countries.  The firm is the creative force behind many of the world's
most innovative and sustainable projects.  Our Asian offices employ
2,000 staff engaged in a variety of building, infrastructure,
transportation, environmental and industrial projects.  

 

To support our ongoing regional growth, we are currently seeking
enthusiastic, highly motivated personnel to work on a variety of
projects in the region.  It is expected that the candidate will have an
understanding of Fire Engineering activities and have experience in the
performance-based design environment.  

 

The appointee will report to the Arup Fire Leader in the Hong Kong
office. He/She will be responsible for developing integrated fire
strategies for buildings, covering all aspects of fire safety, and
driving the effort associated with developing new client relationships,
identifying new assignment opportunities and winning new businesses for
locations outside of Hong Kong, Macau and China.  The role would be to
focus on managing, delivering and fronting with the clients and the
design teams; ensuring that all new assignments achieve the client's
desired results and are delivered to the client's satisfaction. The
individual must be organized and bring a structured approach to project
goal definitions whilst monitoring the achievement of targets, and to
provide supervision to junior engineers.

 

To qualify, you should have at least 7 years' related experience in the
fire industry with strong communication skills in English both spoken
and written; strong commercial awareness and the ability to frame and
present attractive commercial propositions to clients.  In addition, you
should have a strong client focus, ability to understand and define the
client needs and be able to travel frequently in Asia on short notice.
Having business development skill is an advantage. 

 

Please apply to the Human Resources Manager and quote Vacancy no.
E4883

Ove Arup & Partners Hong Kong Ltd, Level 5, Festival Walk, 80 Tat Chee
Avenue, Kowloon Tong, Kowloon or e-mail: hk_recruit at arup.com. 

 

 

Application letters collected will be used for recruitment purpose
only.  Applicants not contacted within 8 weeks may consider their
applications unsuccessful.
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Sun Jan  6 12:15:43 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:15:43 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Supplier and installers of fireproofing materials
Message-ID: <4780C66F.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> John Rakic <john at rakman.com.au> 1/12/2007 7:35 pm >>>

Dear industry colleague

Please find attached the first version of what we hope will be a useful
compilation of suppliers and installers of fireproofing materials used
for protection of structural steel members.

Like many similar publications of this nature we have produced, we ar
sure there will be future updates as others in the industry participate
in our activities.

This and other publications can be found on our www.pfpa.com.au web
site.

This publication will complement the soon to be released "ASI/ PFPA -
Guide ot Fire Protection of Steel Framed Building"

We anticipate putting out another useful publication is this area,
namely a "Guide to the Cost of Fireproofing Materials" which is in the
final stages of drafting and should be out in early 2008.

Any comments should be forwarded to PFPA

Regards


John Rakic
Executive Officer
Alliance for Fire & Smoke Containment
 
Suite 18
12 Tryon Road
(PO Box 42)
Lindfield, NSW  2070
Sydney
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Tue Jan  8 13:56:16 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:56:16 +1100
Subject: SFPE> Graduate student opportunities at the University
	of	Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
References: <47766D59.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au> <4782AC17.6090107@usask.ca>
Message-ID: <47838100.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

Opportunities for graduate students at the M.Sc. and Ph.D. level are 
available in the fire protection engineering research program in the 
Department of Mechanical Engineering at the University of Saskatchewan 
in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. Experimental and numerical research 
is ongoing to improve the knowledge of heat and mass transfer in 
materials during exposures to fire. Specific areas of interest in this 
program include:

modeling heat and mass transfer in thermal protective clothing and human 
skin;
evaluating the performance and durability of protective clothing;
modeling the effects of fire on buildings and the environment; and
correlating small and full-scale fire test results of building materials 
and consumer products.

Experimental fire science facilities in the department include a cone 
calorimeter and small scale protective clothing test equipment. The 
department also has well equipped material science, thermal analysis, 
heat transfer, and experimental and computational fluid dynamics 
laboratories. More information on the fire protection engineering 
research program at the University of Saskatchewan, including past 
publications and completed graduate theses in this research area, can be 
found at __ 
<http://homepage.usask.ca/%7Edat086/>www.engr.usask.ca/~torvi. 
Information on the University of Saskatchewan and its graduate school 
can be found at www.usask.ca/cgsr.

Prospective students are asked to submit a cover letter, a copy of their 
CV, one page description of their research interests, and one sample 
publication by email to david.torvi at usask.ca by February 9, 2008. 
Successful candidates will then be asked to formally apply to the 
University of Saskatchewan*s College of Graduate Studies and Research, 
and may be eligible for university graduate scholarships and other 
financial support.

Regards,

David Torvi
----------------------------------------------

David Torvi, Ph.D., P.Eng.
Associate Professor
Department of Mechanical Engineering
University of Saskatchewan
57 Campus Dr.
Saskatoon, SK  S7N 5A9

Phone 	306-966-5493
Fax	306-966-5427
Email	David.Torvi at usask.ca 

Home page www.engr.usask.ca/~torvi 
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Wed Jan  9 07:00:00 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:00:00 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Fire Engineering Opportunity
References: <4783812C.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>
	<593AB24B77E1BA4D98A5813BF3EA40B4150B21@LOCKEMASTER.LOCKECAREY.local>
Message-ID: <478470F0.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> Glenn Horton <glennhorton at lockecarey.com> 8/01/2008 11:27 pm >>>
Fire Engineering Opportunity


Locke Carey are a global firm of fire engineers, with offices in the
UK
and Middle East.  Locke Carey is the fire engineering mind behind many
of the world's largest and most spectacular building projects.  Locke
Carey employs staff engaged in a variety of building, infrastructure,
transportation, environmental and industrial projects.  
 
To support our ongoing growth, we are currently seeking enthusiastic,
highly motivated personnel to work on a variety of projects.  It is
expected that the candidate will have an understanding of Fire
Engineering activities and have experience in the performance-based
design environment.  

 We have vacancies in all of our offices and the appointee will report
to the local General Manager or Director. He/She will be responsible
for
developing integrated fire strategies for buildings, covering all
aspects of fire safety, and driving the effort associated with
developing new client relationships, identifying new assignment
opportunities and potentially winning new businesses for locations
worldwide.  

The role would be to focus on managing, delivering and fronting with
the
clients and the design teams; ensuring that all new assignments
achieve
the client's desired results and are delivered to the client's
satisfaction. The individual must be organized and bring a structured
approach to project goal definitions whilst monitoring the achievement
of targets, and to provide supervision to junior engineers.

To qualify, you should have related experience in the fire industry
with
strong communication skills in English both spoken and written; strong
commercial awareness and the ability to frame and present attractive
commercial propositions to clients.  In addition, you should have a
strong client focus, ability to understand and define the client needs
and be able to travel frequently on short notice. Having business
development skill is an advantage. 

There is also an opportunity to gain a higher degree at Masters or
Doctorate level for the right candidate.  Locke Carey is continuing
its
programme of research into developing new skills and knowledge and is
looking for suitable candidates to undertake the technical challenges
this brings.

We aim to be an equal opportunities employer and welcome applications
from all sections of the community. 

To obtain further particulars or apply in the first instance email a
CV
to benbradford at lockecarey.com  Or post to Locke Carey, Orchard House,
Kent Rd., Dartford, DA1 2AJ. Closing date for applications 1st
February,
2008

Regards

Glenn Horton
for and on behalf of Locke Carey



From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Wed Jan  9 07:03:18 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:03:18 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  SFPE Releases Chemistry of Fire Teacher's Kit
References: <224501c85213$8f91c350$67317626@sfpe.com>
Message-ID: <478471B6.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>



>>> <jgordon at sfpe.org> 9/01/2008 3:28 am >>>
Dear SFPE Member:

 

With your support and funding from the U.S. Department of Homeland
Security, SFPE was able to develop a teacher's kit entitled The
Chemistry of Fire in collaboration with Discovery Education.  This
educational resource is targeted at high school aged students and is
consistent with U.S. chemistry education curriculum standards. It was
developed as part of the SFPE strategy to increase recognition of the
fire protection engineering profession and to attract more students
into
careers in fire protection engineering.  

 

Within the next week all SFPE members will be receiving the DVD
version
of this teacher's kit. On this DVD are segments about the role of fire
safety in buildings, demonstrations of experiments associated with the
chemistry of fire, and careers in fire protection engineering.  There
is
also a PDF file of a teacher's guide that describes experiments that
can
be used to explore the chemistry of fire.

 

SFPE encourages you to contact your local high school regarding use of
this educational material in their chemistry program.  Widespread use
of
this teacher's kit will help expand the recognition of the fire
protection engineering profession and the role of science and
technology
in the protection of people and property from fire.

 

 

Julie A. Gordon, CMP

SFPE Education Program Manager

7315 Wisconsin Avenue, Suite 620E

Bethesda, MD 20814

Phone:  (301) 718-2910 ext. 104

Mobile:  (301) 661-5998

Fax: (301) 718-2242

Email: jgordon at sfpe.org <mailto:jgordon at sfpe.org> 

 


From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Fri Jan 11 19:26:48 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:26:48 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Fire Safety Engineer Opportunity
Message-ID: <4787C2F8.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> Bryan Chin <bryan.chin at beca.com> 11/01/2008 6:25 pm >>>
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> 
> Fire Safety Engineer Opportunity
> 
>  
> Beca is a thriving, employee-owned consultancy firm providing
> multi-disciplinary engineering services internationally. Beca has a
> group of specialist fire safety engineers operating within
> Australasia, the Pacific rim and South East Asia. As an industry
> leader, we work on many prominant landmark buildings throughout the
> different regions, providing a comprehensive 'one stop shop'
services
> to a broad client base.
> 
> Our Singapore office (South East Asia Hub) employs overs 150 staff
> engaging in a variety of commercial building projects. Beca is one
of
> the biggest multi-disciplinary firms within the region, excelling in
> M&E and C&S services. To support our ongoing regional growth, Beca
is
> now extending our services to include fire engineering services, and
> hence we are seeking enthusiastic, highly motivated personnel to
join
> us in the region.
> 
> The candidate should (preferably) possess the following:
> 
> *	Recognised tertiary qualification (ME(fire) or equivalent)
> *	Experience in consultancy environment
> *	Able to work independently and is a team player
> *	Good communication and report writing skills
> *	Hands-on experience in fire modelling (zone and field models)
> and evacuation softwares
> *	Experience in performance-based design environment
> 
> If you meet the above and want to put your experience and practical
> application of principle design method and development of
performance
> based solutions to the test - this could be the role for you! Join
the
> innovative team that prides itself on producing award winning
quality
> designs!
> 
> The position is available at graduate level and at intermediate
level
> with ~3 years experience. 
> 
> The appointee will report to the Fire Engineering Leader in the
> Singapore office. He/She will be responsible for asissting with
> developing fire safety strategies for buildings, covering all
aspects
> of fire safety design. Intermediate level appointee will be expected
> to help in driving the effort associated with developing new client
> relationships, identifying new assignment opportunities and winning
> new businesses.  
>  
> In return for your toil, you'll have a fun and vibrant atmosphere in
> which to work, a company what will value your talent and expertise
and
> a competitive remuneration package. Relocation assistance will be
> provided for successful applicants recruited outside of Singapore.
> 
> Please apply to the Human Resources Manager personnel at beca.com and
> quote Fire Safety Engineer.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bryan Chin
> Associate Director
> Beca
> Email   bryan.chin at beca.com 
> Web    www.beca.com 

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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Tue Jan 15 07:52:28 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:52:28 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Research Foundation news
Message-ID: <478C663C.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> "Peterson, Eric" <epeterson at NFPA.org> 15/01/2008 6:59 am >>>
Enclosed is the January-February edition of the Research Foundation
newsletter. Topics include:
 
Reports
Respiratory Exposure Study for Fire Fighters and Other Emergency
Responders
Clearance Distance for Gas Appliance Sidewall Venting
Old Reports Now Available Online
 
New Research Project
Home Fire Sprinkler Costs Assessment
 
Symposium
SupDet 2008
Workshop on VID Systems
 
Research Planning
Upholstered Furniture Fire Hazards
High Volume/Low Speed Fans Sprinkler Discharge
Clean Agent Suppression of Class C Fires
Projects in Support of NFPA Codes and Standards
 
If you don't wish to receive future newsletters, reply with DO NOT
SEND
in subject line.
 
Eric Peterson
Administrator
The Fire Protection Research Foundation
617.984.7281
epeterson at nfpa.org 
 
"Celebrating 25 years of research in support of the NFPA mission"
 
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Mon Jan 21 19:40:40 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:40:40 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Wood and Fire safety
Message-ID: <4794F538.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>



>>> Anton Osvald <osvald at vsld.tuzvo.sk> 21/01/2008 7:06 pm >>>

  I am sending you information about the prepared conference Wood and
Fire safety. For more details see: http://www.wfs.tuzvo.sk/ 

   Yours sincerely.

   

  A. Osvald
<osvald at vsld.tuzvo.sk>
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Mon Jan 21 19:41:29 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:41:29 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Fire safety requirements in Ukraine
Message-ID: <4794F569.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>



>>> Bryan Chin <bryan.chin at beca.com> 21/01/2008 5:22 pm >>>
Dear Collegue,

We are currently looking at providing fire engineering services for a
project in Ukraine, and am hoping that the forum can offer me some
information and guidance in terms of the local regulatory framework in
this area.

1) I presume building works in Ukraine is covered under prescriptive
codes, hence there would be a "Fire Code" that governs the fire safety
design requirements for buildings. Where can I locate a copy of this
"Fire Code"?

2) Apart from the "Fire Code", is it possible to utilise other
international Codes to carry out fire engineering design?

3) Is Performance-based approach acceptable to the local fire safety
department? 

4) What documentation is required for permit submission to the local
fire safey department?

Any help from the forum would be much appreciated. 

Regards,

Bryan Chin
Beca
Email   bryan.chin at beca.com 
Web    www.beca.com 





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From Mary.Tyszkiewicz at hsi.dhs.gov  Wed Jan 23 03:33:42 2008
From: Mary.Tyszkiewicz at hsi.dhs.gov (Tyszkiewicz, Mary)
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:33:42 -0500
Subject: SFPE> Info request:  New technologies to mitigate WUI fires?
In-Reply-To: <B861125F90A32542839A2A48EC8FA81E9509B5@HSHE.hsi.dhs.gov>
References: <B861125F90A32542839A2A48EC8FA81E9509AC@HSHE.hsi.dhs.gov>
	<B861125F90A32542839A2A48EC8FA81E9509B3@HSHE.hsi.dhs.gov>
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	<B861125F90A32542839A2A48EC8FA81E9509B5@HSHE.hsi.dhs.gov>
Message-ID: <B861125F90A32542839A2A48EC8FA81E9509B6@HSHE.hsi.dhs.gov>

> Greetings --
> 
> My name is Mary Tyszkiewicz and I work for the Homeland Security Institute (HSI).  We invite you to submit descriptions of technologies in development for the Homeland Security Institute's Project SAFE (Secure Against Fire and Embers) Survey for the Department of Homeland Security> '> s (DHS) Science and Technology Directorate.
> 
> HSI is the > "> think tank> ">  for the Department of Homeland Security and is a congressionally chartered Federally Funded Research and Development Center (FFRDC), dedicated solely to supporting DHS and the homeland security mission.
> 
> Fellow researchers suggested that SFPE members could help our DHS survey by identifying technologies that can help fires in the wildland-urban interface (WUI), as seen in the recent California fires.  We are centering our attention on external/outdoor fires, not fires that start inside homes and buildings.  
> 
> The objective of the technology survey is to identify products/technologies that are in development that could be used for: 
> 1.	Fire fighting
> 2.	Prevent, protect, respond and recover from fires
> 3.	Save lives and properties (e.g., evacuation, communications, building protection)
> 4.	Reduce after-effects (e.g., mudslides, erosion)
> 
> The technology definition for our survey is broad, including widgets, applications, new processes or systems.  The maturity of the technologies can be from laboratory research and development to operationally tested and available.  We are including any currently available technology that could be adapted to prevent, protect, respond or recover from fire.  We are excluding technologies that are currently available to the fire fighting community.
> 
> The technologies that we gather in the survey will inform DHS refine a plan for how best to conduct technology expositions, demonstrations, and experiments for the wildland-urban interface and possibly fund further research and development (R&D).  Our collection deadline for DHS is February 7, 2008.
> 
> If you have candidate technologies, please send HSI staff a request for a technology survey form: 
> Mary Tyszkiewicz, Mary.Tyszkiewicz at hsi.dhs.gov
> Sarah Carlson, Sarah.Carlson at hsi.dhs.gov
> 
> Thank you for your participation in this technology survey for DHS. 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Mary T. Tyszkiewicz, PhD  (SAY: Tiz KEV itch)
> Senior Analyst
> Homeland Security Institute (HSI)
> 2900 S. Quincy Street; Suite 800
> Arlington, VA 22206
> 703-416-4712 (direct)
> 703-416-3008 (fax)
> Mary.Tyszkiewicz at hsi.dhs.gov
> www.homelandsecurity.org
> 
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From mitchell.crow at navy.mil  Thu Jan 24 00:31:54 2008
From: mitchell.crow at navy.mil (Crow, Mitchell 0 CIV NAVFAC MW, MS)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:31:54 -0500
Subject: SFPE> FPE> Position Available: Civilian Navy Facilities Engineering
 - Midwest
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References: <B861125F90A32542839A2A48EC8FA81E9509AC@HSHE.hsi.dhs.gov>
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	<B861125F90A32542839A2A48EC8FA81E9509B6@HSHE.hsi.dhs.gov>
Message-ID: <AF8391BA25A6F14399A71B41347FCFE5105538@naeaphilez06.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil>

Greetings -- 

My name is Mitchell Crow and I work for the Civilian Navy Facilities
Engineering Command at Great Lakes Naval Station. We are in need of an
FPE here, just North of Chicago.  

There are no overseas deployments involved in our civilian engineering
positions.  These positions are strictly civilian engineering jobs that
pay well, and include over 22% location allownace for this particular
area.

We invite you to submit resumes or forward to those you might know that
are interested in relocating to this area.


Sincerely, 

Mitchell Crow

Personnel Manager
Naval Facilities Engineering Command 
Midwest
201 Decatur Avenue, Building 1A
Great Lakes, IL 60088-2801
(847) 688-2600 x 1270  Office
mitchell.crow at navy.mil


From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Fri Jan 25 05:27:38 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:27:38 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Lecturer in Fire Dynamics and Material Flammability (UK)
Message-ID: <4799734A.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

 >>> Delichatsios Michael <M.Delichatsios at ulster.ac.uk> 23/01/2008 7:19 am >>>
greetings

http://jobs.ulster.ac.uk/display_job.phtml?id=2463# 

NEW YEAR, NEW FACULTY, NEW OPPORTUNITIES Faculty of Art, Design and the
Built Environment

The Faculty of Art, Design and the Built Environment was established on 1
August 2007. The Faculty brings together two strong, established Schools of
Art and Design and the Built Environment and the newly created School of
Architecture and Design to provide a unique opportunity for excellence,
creativity, regional and international engagement. The aim of the Faculty is
to provide a greater integration of art, creative design, architecture and
the built environment to address emerging societal challenges by engendering
the creative and professional expertise required to deal with them in
innovative and sustainable ways. The University has invested significantly
in this new Faculty and in the next exciting phase of this investment the
University wishes to recruit to a range of new posts. 

Lecturer in Fire Dynamics and Material Flammability
Base: Jordanstown
 Ref: J07/331/W  

The Fire Safety Engineering Research and Technology Centre (FireSERT), which
is part of the School of the Built Environment, is a multi-disciplinary team
of scientists and engineers working on fire safety in a laboratory facility,
which is unique on the island of Ireland. The postholder will provide
teaching, programme development and research consistent with the area of
fire dynamics and material flammability, as they relate to fire safety
design in the built environment. Applicants must have experience of
analytical and numerical modelling of pyrolysis and gaseous combustion. 

Salary:  *30,013 - *42,791
Closing date:  08 February 2008
Interview date:  05 March 2008  

The University is an equal opportunities employer and welcomes applicants
from all sections of the community. Appointment will be made on merit.


Note: Travel expenses paid from point of entry to UK only.

Please note that further information and application forms are available by
clicking on the "Download Application Pack" button at either the top or
bottom of this page.

Tell a friend   Download Application Pack

Delichatsios Michael <M.Delichatsios at ulster.ac.uk>  



From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Fri Jan 25 05:33:55 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:33:55 +1100
Subject: SFPE> Positions of Lecturer and Business Manager in Hydrogen	Safety
 at UU (application deadline 8 Feb 2008)
Message-ID: <479974C3.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>



>>> Molkov Vladimir <V.Molkov at ulster.ac.uk> 23/01/2008 11:28 pm >>>
Dear Friends and Colleagues,

 

I am pleased to say that the University of Ulster has just advertised
two
new positions in the HySAFER team: 

1.	Lecturer in Safety of Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Technologies
(permanent) 
2.	Hydrogen Safety Business Manager (3 years in the first
instance).

 

Application packs can be downloaded from
http://jobs.ulster.ac.uk/jobs.phtml 
<http://jobs.ulster.ac.uk/jobs.phtml>  and are attached for your
convenience.

The deadline for application is the 8th of February 2008.

You and your colleagues are very welcome to apply and join our
international
team working in the area of hydrogen safety education, research and
innovation.

Kindest regards,
Vladimir

Prof Vladimir Molkov, PhD, DSc
Hydrogen Safety Engineering and Research (Block 27)
Built Environment Research Institute
School of the Built Environment
Faculty of Art, Design and the Built Environment
University of Ulster
Newtownabbey
BT37 0QB
Northern Ireland, UK
T: +44(0)2890368731
F: +44(0)2890368726
E: v.molkov at ulster.ac.uk 
W: www.engj.ulst.ac.uk/tacg/ <http://www.engj.ulst.ac.uk/tacg/> 

PGC in Hydrogen Safety Engineering:
 <http://campusone.ulster.ac.uk/potential/postgraduate.php?cid=C514PJ>
http://campusone.ulster.ac.uk/potential/postgraduate.php?cid=C514PJ 
 
Projects websites:
HySafe: www.hysafe.net <http://www.hysafe.net> 
HYPER: www.hyperproject.eu/ <http://www.hyperproject.eu/> 
HyCourse: www.engj.ulst.ac.uk/esshs/hycourse/index.php 
<http://www.engj.ulst.ac.uk/esshs/hycourse/index.php> 
HySAFEST: see at www.engj.ulst.ac.uk/tacg/projects.php?mfm=detail 
<http://www.engj.ulst.ac.uk/tacg/projects.php?mfm=detail&id=6> &id=6

 

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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Fri Jan 25 05:56:32 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:56:32 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Re: Fire safety requirements in Ukraine
Message-ID: <47997A10.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> "Jonas Svensson" <Jonas.Svensson at grontmij.se> 23/01/2008 6:54 pm >>>
Bryan,

Please find answers to your questions below. The answers are provided by a Ukrainian consultant, ADI, which we are co-operating with in a present project. We have had much use of their knowledge and experience regarding fire protection regulations in Ukraine. 

For additional questions please use the following e-mail. I would suggest you write in English, if your Russian and Ukrainian are un-sufficient. 

project at adi.com.ua <mailto:project at adi.com.ua> 

Kind regards

Jonas

Jonas Svensson
Fire Protection Engineer

Grontmij AB
Box 2909
SE-212 09 MALM?
SWEDEN 

Norra Bulltoftav?gen 65 A 
T +46 10-480 22 71
T +46 10-480 00 00 (vxl)
S +46 70-529 59 38 (sms)
F +46 10-480 23 63
E jonas.svensson at grontmij.se 
www.grontmij.se 


 

"Question 1. 

You are quite right. Planning of constructions and buildings is carried out in accordance with the State design norms of Ukraine. All norms on design of buildings parts, buildings in the whole, engineering systems and constructions contain requirements on fire safety. In addition, in Ukraine, there are separate norms ( Laws, Rules, Building norms Normative acts), which contain the fire safety requirements for building elements, engineering systems ( fire-warning, ventilation, electrical supply, notification about a fire and evacuation management) and different systems of fire extinguishing. 

In order to observe all requirements of fire norms it is necessary to know all design norms. In the Ukraine these norms are on paper and electronic transmitters, but I think that they are not present in English translation.

Question 2.

You can apply the international norms of fire safety, but only in those cases when they do not conflict with the requirements of Ukrainian norms, or result in a higher degree of protection. The Fire Department must receive a conformation report about any changes.

Question 3

Development of projects on fire-protection with acceptance it by Departments of Ukraine ( including the department of fire safety) is possible to fulfill by any organization having certified personnel and license on design of this type of works, executing project in accordance with the operating norms of Ukraine ( or norms of other countries, if they do not conflict with the requirements of the Ukrainian norms or contain more hard requirements on some questions).

Question 4

For implementation of design works on territory of Ukraine it is necessary to have license on this type of works which State administration issues after the grant of necessary documents confirming technical capacities of companies and presence in the company of certified specialists on this type of works.

I made effort to answer Your questions as shortly as possible. If you have the personal interest in continuation of our dialog, for the receipt of necessary information about us you can appeal to the Grontmij AB company together with which we presently execute project in Ukraine.

We are opened to the mutually beneficial collaboration and will render necessary support to Your Company in Ukraine. 

Kind regards

Oleg

"

 

	-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
	Fr?n: iafss-bounces at newcastle.edu.au [mailto:iafss-bounces at newcastle.edu.au]F?r Bryan Chin
	Skickat: den 21 januari 2008 07:23
	Till: iafss at newcastle.edu.au 
	?mne: IAFSS> Fire safety requirements in Ukraine
	
	

	Dear Collegue, 

	We are currently looking at providing fire engineering services for a project in Ukraine, and am hoping that the forum can offer me some information and guidance in terms of the local regulatory framework in this area.

	1) I presume building works in Ukraine is covered under prescriptive codes, hence there would be a "Fire Code" that governs the fire safety design requirements for buildings. Where can I locate a copy of this "Fire Code"?

	2) Apart from the "Fire Code", is it possible to utilise other international Codes to carry out fire engineering design?

	3) Is Performance-based approach acceptable to the local fire safety department? 

	4) What documentation is required for permit submission to the local fire safey department? 

	Any help from the forum would be much appreciated. 

	Regards, 

	Bryan Chin
	Beca
	Email   bryan.chin at beca.com <mailto:bryan.chin at beca.com>  
	Web    www.beca.com <http://www.beca.com>  




	P  Please consider the environment before printing this email. 


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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Tue Jan 29 04:58:12 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:58:12 +1100
Subject: SFPE>   FACULTY POSITION -- WPI Fire Protection Engineering
Message-ID: <479EB264.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

 >>> "Dembsey, Nicholas A." <ndembsey at WPI.EDU> 29/01/2008 4:27 am >>>
WPI Fire Protection Engineering Department

FACULTY POSITION

The Department of Fire Protection Engineering at Worcester Polytechnic
Institute invites applications at all levels for a tenure\tenure-track
faculty position beginning in the 2008-2009 academic year.  Required
qualifications include: an earned doctorate in Mechanical Engineering,
Civil Engineering, Chemical Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Fire
Protection Engineering, or a closely related field; vision and passion
for growing our Ph.D. program; a demonstrated record of scholarly
research; a strong commitment to teaching; and excellent communication
skills.

The position is in the general area of Fire Protection Engineering and
the primary areas of specialty interest include computational modeling;
detection; advanced suppression and modeling of suppression; fire
investigation; forensic analysis; fire protection systems; structural
design for fire; and combustion.  Candidates in other areas will be
considered.

The successful candidate will be responsible for teaching courses and
advising M.S. thesis and Ph.D. dissertations in traditional areas of
fire protection engineering.  The candidate will be expected to develop
and sustain externally funded research programs that are accompanied by
scholarly activities.  Applications from women and minority candidates
are especially encouraged.  For full consideration, applicants must send
curriculum vitae, statement of teaching and research interests, and a
list of five professional references by March 15th, 2008 to:

Kathy A. Notarianni, Professor and Head
Department of Fire Protection Engineering
Worcester Polytechnic Institute / 100 Institute Road
Worcester, MA 01609 (USA)

Position will remain open until filled. WPI offers a smoke free
environment, competitive compensation and an excellent benefits package.
 To enrich education through diversity, WPI is an affirmative action,
equal opportunity employer.

Nicholas Dembsey
<ndembsey at WPI.EDU>
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From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Wed Jan 30 04:37:14 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:37:14 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Microwaveable wheat bags
Message-ID: <479FFEFA.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

Dear Forum members
 
Microwaveable wheat bags are used as heat packs for therapeutic use 
and as 
comforters for small children when enclosed in (for example) furry
animal  
covers. They also seem to have been used as bed warmers although  some
Internet 
sites warn against this. 
They are relatively new to UK and in order to better understand the
risks,  I 
would most grateful for fire incident information and any other
relevant  
details from forum members.  I will summarise the responses and  post
them back 
to the IAFFS forum.
 
Best Regards
 
Stan Ames
Fire Research Services Ltd  
<StanAmes at aol.com> 


   

From bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au  Wed Jan 30 22:06:35 2008
From: bogdan.dlugogorski at newcastle.edu.au (Bogdan Dlugogorski)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:06:35 +1100
Subject: SFPE>  Engineering Opportunities w/ New South Wales Fire	brigades
Message-ID: <47A0F4EB.5D49.0032.0@newcastle.edu.au>

>>> David Boverman <David.Boverman at fire.nsw.gov.au> 30/01/2008 9:52 am
>>>
We're looking for a mechanical and structural engineer each who have
expertise in fire engineering too (the link is
https://jobs.nsw.gov.au/JobList.asp and the closing date is Friday 15
February 2008).
 
Speaking from my own experience, this is an excellent opportunity for
the right person to be at the 'cutting edge' of fire engineering here in
Australia. 

David Boverman
Fire Engineering
New South Wales Fire Brigades
Sydney, Australia
David.Boverman at fire.nsw.gov.au 
011 61 2 9742 7445 (office)
011 61 2 9742 7483 (fax)
0438 776057 (mob)

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